Stagione 2008/2009 di Andrea "Il Mago" Bargnani: cap. III

[merlino]

io dico che veramente bargs andra via

pasquà, secondo me, tu hai la palla di vetro.






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e l'altra di plastica


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BUON NATALE
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[GhostRider]

Io mi chiedo la madre (visto che a quanto ne so, aveva preso casa a Toronto con mammà, 'a creatura!) cosa gli dirà dopo queste performance. Secondo me, da perfetta italiana truffaldina penserà "machettefrega Andre', tanto mò semo ricchi sfondati, aoh!" e via di pastasciutta e coccole sul divano.

Adesso gli toccate pure la madre, che merdaccia.

Oh ciccio se non sia riconoscere umorismo da sfottò il problema è tuo. Piano con le parole.

[sensomc]

io dico che veramente bargs andra via

io spero veramente che Bargs andrà via

[crazycry10]

raga ma lauertano è scomparso?
non ci doveva tenere informati sulla trade (se ce ne fosse una) di andrea?

[fagiu]

Dipende tutto da suo cugino

[mighty]

sui rimbalzi e' una questione di "Voglia di cifre" anche perche di quelli importanti e combattuti non e' che non ne prenda.

Sbagliato. Sui rimbalzi e` questione di voglia di DOMINARE. Cosa che il ragazzo non ha mai dimostrato di avere. E poi i rimbalzi importanti in una partita non saranno mica solo 3...

Ma e' vero che gente molto piu' qualificata di te scommette su di lui da quando ha 13 anni.
tutti coglioni e solo tu il fenomeno???

No macche`, han fattp bene a scommettere su di lui. E` arrivato in NBA e non e` cosa di tutti i giorni. Pero` poi si ferma qui...a questo livello ha troppi limiti.
Che poi quelli che hanno giudicato Bargnani siano qualificati e` da vedere. Basta pensare che avendo un ragazoz ocsi` alto non gli hanno nemmeno insegnato ad usare il piede perno in post.

[pasquale1974]

ragazzi ecco cosa ha detto colangelo sul giornaleThe Star.Com sulle possibili trade,con commento delle sue dichiarazioni

Even as you're reading this, there's a chance there's been a new addition to the Raptors family. And no, that is not to say Bryan Colangelo is in the midst of acquiring a rugged and athletic swingman as an early Christmas gift for the faithful.

The new arrival will be Jamario and Tamara Moon's first child, due any day now. If the ultrasound technician is correct, it's a girl for whom the Moons have already brainstormed a name: Taylin.

"I like the sound of it," said Moon, flashing a satisfied smile as he wished his teammates the best of the season in Monday night's locker room.

Perhaps the stark responsibility of fatherhood will startle Moon into the realization he is in a contract year. Colangelo can only hope. As the club breaks for the yuletide, Moon's inconsistency is among a long list of reasons why last year's .500 is this year's .393.

Said Colangelo, taking stock: "We made a deal this summer for Jermaine O'Neal that was the best deal on the table for all the right reasons, and no one's saying it's done and it's not going to work. It hasn't worked as well as we had hoped, but we're constantly working on it."

Colangelo was speaking in upbeat tones before the Raptors halted a five-game losing streak with a 97-75 win over the L.A. Clippers. And even if the Clippers were under-manned, there were small but heartening signs of hope for the visitors. In a rarity, Toronto won the battle of the boards, 48-38. And their re-jigged defence held the Clippers to 33 per cent shooting. So while the Raptors have lost eight of 11 games since Colangelo replaced coach Sam Mitchell with Jay Triano, under the new man their defensive field-goal percentage now resides below 43 per cent. Even if the sample size is small, only two teams in the league, Boston and Cleveland, are holding teams under 43 per cent this season.

That's a tangible improvement over the 17 games under Mitchell in which they allowed nearly 47 per cent gunning. And it's hard to believe it won't reap benefits eventually.

Still, there are holes not being plugged that will require new personnel. Heading into their game with the Clippers the Raptors remained last in the league in fast-break points, points in the paint and total rebounding percentage. And Colangelo acknowledged the sad truth of the O'Neal deal; that though it was designed to buoy the team's historically ghost-like interior presence – and while O'Neal has added credible numbers to the ledger in rebounds and blocked shots – the Raptors remain collectively weak in the trenches.

"It's pretty clear we've been standing around watching (O'Neal and Chris Bosh get rebounds)," said Colangelo. "It's focus and concentration. We've got the guys that can do it."

Still, Colangelo said a roster "tweak" will be a possible course of action. But he does not sound like a man ready to concede the season to a regress-for-progress trade. He did, however, seem beyond miffed that a writer this week had quoted an anonymous general manager saying Colangelo is "in a panic." Colangelo concedes he is putting in long hours on the phone talking swap. But he didn't appreciate being characterized as some demonic, last-minute Christmas shopper set ablaze by a losing streak. Exploring every available option in the marketplace, he said, is his year-round occupation.

"There is no fire sale. There is no panic," he said. "It's completely false that I've talked to the Knicks about a deal for Eddy Curry and whatever else (has been rumoured) and it's completely false that I am trying to give away Anthony Parker. And it is completely false that I'm panicking. We're not panicking.

"I would have traded Chris if I was panicking. That deal's there," and he laughed at the prospect of trading Bosh as though it is an absurdity. "There is no panic. ..... We're only going to make deals if they're the right deals."



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Bosh DealI would like to know what the Bosh deal is and make my own determination on its merits before having it laughed off. If a Bosh trade (probably with Kapono thrown in) could net the Raps something like a Marion/Beasley/Cook combo it might actually be something to consider.

Submitted by Htown16 at 8:40 AM Wednesday, December 24 2008

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The Bottom Line: BC Must Do Something Significant What are the Raptors hoping for? Joe Dumars trades Chauncey 2 games into the season because he knows that team can't beat Boston or Cleveland. At least he recognizes reality. He also traded his mistake Darko for a 1st round draft pick which turned out to be Rodney Stuckey who scored 40 last night. In short, he's trying to make the team better and win a championship. However, in Toronto, BC says there is no panic. True, but doing nothing means lottery. Status quo means lottery. Simply put that is not good enough. He needs to trade his Darko, "Bargnani" before its too late. I think he will. It's entirely obvious. However, "tweaking" is going nowhere, except the lottery. Toronto fans deserve better. BC should be working to get this team to the championship level.

Submitted by Agridome at 8:10 AM Wednesday, December 24 2008

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Basic Review15th in Blocks Differential. OK. 30th in Rebounds Differential. NOT OK. 23rd in Points Differential. NOT OK. 21st in Assists Differential. NOT OK. 15th in Steals Differential. OK. Improving the team rebounds is key to everything else. Minimizing opponents' 2nd chance points will improve all three of our basic deficiencies.

[Grahf]

ragazzi ecco cosa ha detto colangelo sul giornaleThe Star.Com sulle possibili trade,con commento delle sue dichiarazioni ...
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Pasquale, con tutto il rispetto, ma una sfilza di post così tutta in inglese è impresa ardua da leggere

[svev]

Ma chi se lo prende uno come il Busto?
A Natale poi..

[longa83]

Ma chi se lo prende uno come il Busto?
A Natale poi..

dai come "pacco" devi ammettere che non è male

il problema sono le spese di trasporto, sai a mette 113kg (di peso morto e molle) in una scatola e inviarla da qualche parte dell'america quanto ti chiedono?

[palmlu]

Io da tifoso del mago gli faccio tanti auguri di buon natale (e li faccio a tutti voi). Voglio ricordare ad Andrea, se per caso gli capitasse di leggere il messaggio, che un campione come Del Piero era dato per morto fino a qualche anno fa e adesso è acclamato da tutti (anche tifosi avversari). I grandi giocatori alla fine riescono ad imporsi e lui non deve lasciarsi travolgere dalle critiche e dalla pressione. Mai più Busto, Bustnani ecc.. su questo forum!

[Rickett]

Mai più Busto, Bustnani ecc.. su questo forum!

Amen fratello.

[pasquale1974]

auguri di buon natale a tutti i ragazzi del forum e anche al nostro ANDREA BARGNANI

ULTIME NOTIZIE DI TRADE PER ANDREA DAI SITI AMERICANI


The Jermaine O'Neal trade was supposed to be the final stroke, but has turned out to be little more than a step towards building a contender. The next move needs to be at the three, where the most predominant rumor has the Raptors dealing with the Golden State Warriors. Don Nelson loves European big men and helped Dirk Nowitzki become a premier NBA player. Maybe he can do the same for Andrea Bargnani


CON DON NELSON PER FAVORE NO!!!!

[svev]

Ma chi se lo prende uno come il Busto?
A Natale poi..

dai come "pacco" devi ammettere che non è male

il problema sono le spese di trasporto, sai a mette 113kg (di peso morto e molle) in una scatola e inviarla da qualche parte dell'america quanto ti chiedono?

Bargnani è IL pacco

[crazycry10]

Bargnani è IL pacco

svev vabbene che è natale però ci hai stufato proprio, sei tra quelli più ipocriti perchè quando andrea giocava bene eri il primo a dire è cambiato è un altro giocatore ecc...
io capisco che andrea stia dando fortissime delusioni ma il tifoso vero si vede soprattutto nei momenti di difficoltà e tu stai dimostrando di non esserlo ma sei solo un ipocrita scusate per l'OT