Season 2011/2012 di Marco Belinelli: cap. V (New Orleans)

[Arwain]

Ma si sa qualcosa su quando rientra Gordon ???

[REDDEN]

[quote="max":1wmhestm][quote="Jurking":1wmhestm]Tutte le giustificazioni del mondo non servirebbero per la partita di stasera. Male, male, male. Dai Beli cazzo, sei più forte di così.[/quote:1wmhestm]
però un po' ce l'ha anche addosso eh, a fine secondo quarto gli hanno annullato un buzzer fenomenale da metacampo [/quote:1wmhestm]


non glielo hanno annullato è uscito in maniera incredibile per grande sfortuna..nel suo 0/6 da 3 c'è anche questa ave maria

[max]

[quote="REDDEN":3es56kso]non glielo hanno annullato è uscito in maniera incredibile per grande sfortuna..nel suo 0/6 da 3 c'è anche questa ave maria[/quote:3es56kso]
tu pensa che io l'avevo vista dentro
devo dormire

[Jeeves]

Mannaggia, ma non si vince mai
Tieni duro Marco

[MaxZ]

Indubbiamente ci mettono anche del loro per far schifetto, ma è anche vero che in questa stagione non sono molto fortunati, pur avendo avuto buone percentuali e una marea di rimbalzi in più. Belinelli buon soldatino, speriamo in tempi e fortuna migliori, pur con tutti i limiti che indubbiamente ci sono a livello di squadra e individuali.

[Arwain]

Ennesima partita persa di 2 punti...annata nera per NOH.

Max, non credo abbiano percentuali stratosferiche, considerando che lo stesso Belinelli viaggia su % inferiori rispetto alle stagioni precedenti e coi rimbalzi ce fai la birra se poi non metti la palla dentro.

Cmq e` evidente che le prestazioni peggiori di Belinelli sono dovute ad un problema di recupero di energie fisiche quando si gioca fitto, altroche` JJ....

[giginho93]

certo che in queste sere se avesse qualche palla in più da provare a lanciare verso il coso arancione....

[Jeeves]

Sembra che la logica di Monty sia: quando ha la mano calda lo levo, quando non ci prende lo lascio dentro 42 minuti...
Comunque forza Beli e avanti con la resistenza!

[REDDEN]

è evidente che oggi monty con marco abbia sbagliato..tenere 12 minuti nel primo tempo marco in panca è stato delittuoso ma sinceramente non mi sento di dire che faccia sempre cosi visto che finora marco ha giocato tantissimo..
siamo alle solite,squadra che arriva spesso in volata ma perde sempre e non puo' essere solo sfortuna....tanti diranno che jack è stato un fenomeno,tanti punti buone percentuali ma la sua difesa su parker è qualcosa vietato ai minori di 18 anni...marco era in serata da ventello facile ma la palla non arriva non c'è nulla da fare...
nell'ultima rimessa ormai gli hornets sono una comica non riescono mai a farla vorrei tanto sapere lo schema che disegna monty nel timeout...cazzo fateli 2 allenamenti su questa cosa le perdono tutte cosi
p.s. okafor quanto avrà pagato duncan per 1 ora e mezza di ripetizione di basket?

[Filo]

Gordon (knee) will be out for at least another three weeks, Marc Spears reports.

Spin: Gordon's knee is reportedly structurally sound, but it doesn't sound like he's close to returning to the court.

Mon Jan 23

(espn)

in pratica fino all'All star game Marco potrà giocarsi le sue chances, non si può dire che non sia stato fortunato in questa stagione... dovesse far male sarebbe soltanto colpa sua.

[REDDEN]

male marco,male gli hornets...squadra allo sbando e anche il coach mi sembra in confusione...
nessuno chiede i PO a questa figuriamoci senza gordon ma almeno vedere un minimo di gioco che ora come ora non c'è...quasi nessuno ha tiri facili..gli esterni 0 proprio,i lunghi hanno isolamenti per cui comunque sempre 1 vs 1 e fare 100 punti cosi è dura..contropiede 0....fossi in monty punterei molto di piu sulla velocità,sul rischiare questo gioco controllato è dura eseguirlo se non si hanno punte di diamante come l'anno passato

[sundance]

What's puzzling is that Monty basically has a starting lineup similar to last season. Of course, CP and West are gone, but Jack and Landry were on the team and so they're familiar with Monty's offense. You need to ask why does the offense break down so rapidly to the point where players are having to create a basket in isolation? I'm not so sure the problem is always Jack. For me, it's kind of telling that Monty seems to evaluate his players by how many points they produce in his post-game comments. If there is no direction coming from the coach, which seems to be the case, then players are going to look for their own shot.

It's a bad situation for Marco because he happens to play better within a team-oriented offense rather than try to play street ball, which is basically what he is doing this season.

[Jeeves]

Ieri stavo facendo footing ascoltando musica con le cuffiette e, ad un certo punto, sentendo "quelli che benpensano" di Frankie Hi-NRG, un pensiero mi è salito alla mente, ed era il seguente:
"BELIIIIIII, PORCO DI UN CAZZO, ANDIAMOOOOOO!!!!"

sorry...

[Palerio]

[quote="sundance":28d7ie0b]What's puzzling is that Monty basically has a starting lineup similar to last season. Of course, CP and West are gone, but Jack and Landry were on the team and so they're familiar with Monty's offense. You need to ask why does the offense break down so rapidly to the point where players are having to create a basket in isolation? I'm not so sure the problem is always Jack. For me, it's kind of telling that Monty seems to evaluate his players by how many points they produce in his post-game comments. If there is no direction coming from the coach, which seems to be the case, then players are going to look for their own shot.

It's a bad situation for Marco because he happens to play better within a team-oriented offense rather than try to play street ball, which is basically what he is doing this season.[/quote:28d7ie0b]


I state beforehand that I'm not a Monty's fan at all but the lack of talent in this team, except for Gordon, is pretty embarrassing, it's hardly impossible to do better than this if your name is not Greg Popovich.
I smiled a bit when I read that you’re somehow bewildered by Noh offense breaking down so swiftly, I think it was just a matter of time since you lost the best point guard in the game, well I prefer Deron but this is just my orientation, and David West, not the best PF of course, but certainly an reliable scorer who had a great chemistry with CP3.
My point being, you can’t lose one of the best player in the game and pretend that nothing happened, it’s absurd, especially if you’ve got Jack in your team who is probably the most selfish player in the league or prolly the second one considering that I’ve just remembered Baylees .

It's nevertheless true that Noh hasn’t shown any spark of life in the previous games, that’s worrisome, and I put the blame on Monty as well for the regression of players like Belinelli or Landry, in this case I totally agree with you.
What a like about Marco’s game this year is his new attitude at cleaning up the boards, which is unusual for him, but we all know that he’s not here for this reason, he’s a shooter, a streaky one perhaps, but he will always be that and with this system I’m afraid he’s forgetting what he has always done best. I’d really like to see him more involved in the offensive maneuver, he’s got some nice passing skills, I reckon Turiaf would confirm.
I don’t like Landry’s regression either, he was one my favorite 6th man back in the time when he played for Houston. He was an explosive and efficient scorer off the bench and most important a team player, now he’s just someone who’s trying to rack up some points to adjust his stats.
I also believe that this is not the real Kaman, he should work on his conditioning very hard, he has a soft touch, a decent low post game and good rebounding skills, he good easily end up averaging a double-double over here, it’s all about getting in shape soon, right now he looks like a retiree playing basketball at the playground with some friends.

I don’t wanna be pessimistic, but nothing is gonna change this year for Noh and I’ve got the odd feeling that Marco’s experience overseas might be over at the end of this year, which he’s not a bad thing, I’d love to see him playing in a top European team, like Siena, playing for real and competing for the Euroleague trophy, not tanking to get a better pick at the next draft.

[sundance]

Palerio,
I do think the season is already lost for the Hornets. Even if Gordon did come back for the second half of the season, I think the reason the Hornets are losing isn't so much because of the loss of CP or West, but because of Monty's poor play-calling and inability to get his players to gel together as a team. He's got it right defensively, but has failed miserably in reining in Jack's selfishness and getting this team to play together on the offensive end.

I love what the 76ers are doing, and probably the Nuggets too (though I haven't watched them this season). They're winning in spite of the fact that neither team has a star player. Because of good coaching, that doesn't become a necessity. When you compare this season to last, it would seem Monty's success depended alot on CP and West (and Mike Malone as his assistant) instead.

[quote:3s67egtv]I’d really like to see him more involved in the offensive maneuver, he’s got some nice passing skills, I reckon Turiaf would confirm.[/quote:3s67egtv] I think Biedrins and Amir Johnson would as well...

I agree with most everything you say except for the last part. I hope Belinelli finds a way to stay in the NBA. I don't want to lose him.